If the Stormcloaks win, it can still be a united front, but now the Empire is free to wholly regroup in Cyrodil, the Nords ramp up in Skyrim, and Hammerfell can enter as an ally for them both. If the Empire wins, it creates a united front all the way to Hammerfell, and possibly even High Rock if the Redguards and Imperials ally again. They NEED both to be at eachother's throats for as long as possible. The Thalmor don't want either side getting a quick and decisive victory. I could couldn'tcare less for what the leaders of factions do or who has a better chance of beating the thalmor. Sure, the empire might be stronger than an independent skyrim, but I will always choose stormcloaks if only because they have more spirit than the empire, which I find to be the factor of a long term victory. What they do care about is having others tell them who to worship, to have friends or family tortured for something as petty as a diety's existence, to pay sums of earnings to a government that in turn spends that money to hire soldiers to fight those who won't stand for it or to bribe jarls to look the other way, to be abandoned by the empire without a second thought like hammerfel. Nord's are warriors at heart, so they could care less if they die in battle. He wasn't fighting to survive, he was fighting to make a point. That Stormcloak I just killed didn't charge at me with an axe because I was with the empire or because I was a Breton, but because his freedom depended on it. Sure, Ulfric has questionable motives and quite a few Nord's are racist, and they hate the empire, but that's not the cause. As I do the civil war and learn more about the stormcloaks and the situation I stumbled into, I begin to feel sympathy. I didn't see ralof's door or the fact that I could follow him, so I thought I was forced to go with hadvar and thus could only join the imperials in the civil war. When I first played skyrim, I was so afraid of alduin at the beginning that after all the scripted alduin parts, I ran straight to a door.
Sorry for the long text and typos, at work at the moment. Could this empire crumble, the Thalmor lose from fighting too many fronts and a new empire arise from the ashes? Long story short, doesn't the dossier on Ulfric support the idea that a Stormcloak victory would actually be best choice for defeating the Thalmor in the future? Am I looking at this the right way? I'm all for the empire, but the empire as it is now is a beaten dog. Fighting an independent skyrim, hammerfell and what's left of the empire is another. If anything, a Stormcloak victory would make it a lot tougher on the Thalmor. They just want it prolonged to weaken the empire and drain it's resources until they can invade. So they help both sides when it helps keep the war going, but I don't think they really expect a Stormcloak victory. The dossier clearly says a Stormcloak victory is to be avoided. A prolonged civil war definitely helps the Thalmor, but a quick decisive Stormcloak victory would be the opposite. The Thalmor duped him several times and used his actions to their benefit like the markarth incident, but that doesn't mean his actions now will pay off for them in the long run. Ol Ulfric isn't the brightest guy in the world. Ulfric is an asset, but that does not make him an ally. If anything it supports the fact that despite Ulfric being a huge tool, him leading the Stormcloaks to a victory would be bad for the Thalmor. To me I don't quite understand how that's so. I see a lot of people arguing that a stormcloak victory would be more beneficial to the Thalmor, and the dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak is used a lot as evidence for this theory. I know the subject of which sides victory in the civil war would better for the Thalmor has been discussed numerous times, but I just wanted to focus on a few small details that I haven't personally seen addressed a lot (though they may have).
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